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San Francisco's Vape Juice Flavor Ban

Karina White | July 26 2018

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San Francisco's Vape Juice Flavor Ban

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San Francisco’s successful No On Prop E campaign is set to seriously damage numerous positive influences vaping has created. Our EightVape community essay contest has highlighted so many benefits of having flavored E-juices and the convenience of online stores. No On Prop E is poised to seriously damage the future possibilities of more success stories like the incredible ones we've received.


No on Prop E is also referred to as the Flavor Ban. Those in support of it have campaigned using terms like “Candy Tobacco” to describe flavored E-Juice. The very intimidating term Candy Tobacco pushed voters to go along with the ban in San Francisco, despite their legalization of Marijuana gummy candies, lollipops, and pastry desserts.

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In our EightVape Essay contest on How Vaping Changed Your Life, numerous people listed the flavor options of E-Juice to be the defining factor in why they have made the successful transition from combustible tobacco to vaping. Many could not find satisfaction in tobacco flavored juices because they were not the same as traditional cigarettes and therefore disappointing compared to the real thing. This caused them to go back on their attempts to quit in some cases. However in others who chose to try more exciting flavors, they put down cigarettes for good, some being able to quit completely in as little as two days.


You in the EightVape community who have written in to us documenting the serious health issues you have eradicated through vaping are the exact targets those campaigning for No On Prop E were aiming for. They claim they want to ban flavors because they appeal to children. But by eliminating an important incentive of switching to vaping they will create more traditional analog smokers that will be around children. Parents who struggle to quit will still have kids looking up to them, watching them smoke, with little to no hope of an easy transition to quitting. Children will have to watch parents suffer health issues, smell the harsh tobacco on their bodies, and see the negative effects it has on their happiness and life energy.


No On Prop E would also significantly affect family owned brick and mortar smoke and/or vape stores who make their livings on the sale of E-Juices to legal 21 and over customers. The Truth Initiative who was a huge supporter of this ban, wants to further the ban to eliminate the online sale of E-Liquid and vaping products.


In a few essays we have gotten from those in the EightVape family, they have thanked the website significantly for saving their lives in cases where smoking cigarettes has left them physically unable to drive the long distances to local  smoke and/or vape stores to buy vaping products. With the ability to have products sent to their doors, they are making recoveries as they lower their nicotine intake dramatically, and eliminate their tobacco usage entirely.


Eliminating the online sales of E-cigarette products would also result in the loss of thousands of jobs (including mine!) It also would reduce the numerous incredible testimonials put out by E-cigarette users about the positives of vaping, the success stories of quitting cigarettes, and the many lives that have been saved. Pursuing the ban of online E-cigarette sales leaves no place for people struggling to quit to find the help they need.

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The elimination of flavored tobacco products is based on fear mongering, online trolls and hackers, and blatant ignorance of all positive feedback on vaping simply because there is “not enough evidence”. We read dozens of evidence, and real life stories every day. And No On Prop E wants to hide that.


Most of the submissions we got have been from people over the age of thirty, forty, or more. We have not received any essay submissions from people who never began smoking. We have zero stories about people who were non-smokers, or “social smokers” who have found vaping to just be fun or a social crutch. Everyone who has picked up vaping because of sweet or “fun sounding” flavors have only done so as a means to incentivize them to continue on a healthier path.


To take away the option of flavored vape juice is to say that these supporters of No On Prop E only want people to quit smoking cold turkey and suffer physical side effects. Or try Chantix and suffer severe mental anguish. Or use a nicotine patch to have nicotine flowing directly into their blood streams for hours at a time. Or chew gum that causes sore throats, indigestion, high blood sugar, nightmares, heartburn, hair loss, and require heavy smokers to chew a piece every hour.

 They’d rather people inhale the taste they’re trying to avoid and desensitize themselves to with tobacco flavored E-liquids. It seems like a huge tease. Like, “Ha-ha you’re addicted! Oh you wanna quit? Too bad. You chose this harsh tobacco flavor, and you’re gonna keep it!”


The nonsensical argument of stopping it from appealing to young people is ridiculous, as there has only been a ban on menthol cigarettes… No ban yet on flavored cloves, flavored cigars, cigarillos, flavored rolling papers, there are thousands of theses still on the market. I worked for Davidoff of Geneva, and I sold tons of them every day. And you know why? People who never smoked came up to me and asked for something fun and tasty because they never tried it before.

Now I work at EightVape and not once on our site or any connected social media have we gotten questions or asked for recommendations by non-smokers. Where’s the ban on these Cigar companies making millions on flavored combustible tobacco that non-smokers love to buy on vacation or for parties?

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Or how about those candy bubble gum cigarettes? You know those candies that come in a cigarette carton, are long powdery sticks of gum that you can “puff smoke with” and are wrapped up to look like real cigarettes? They’re in almost every candy shop across the nation. My younger cousins think they’re hilarious. Where’s the ban on those? They do way more to appeal to young kids than a bottle of vape juice that you can only use in a mod that definitely costs more than a pack of gum and you need an ID for.  

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It’d be one thing to push for more active campaigns on the dangers of beginning to smoke, its a counterproductive measure to make it harder and less appealing for adults who want to quit smoking cigarettes. EightVape has witnessed so many success stories that thank vaping for saving their lives, and No On Prop E and The Truth Initiative's quest for flavor bans and online store bans hopes to silence those successes.

11 comments

  • Drew: August 11, 2018

    While I agree with a fair amount of the post, it is obviously highly biased towards vaping, and paints it as the only legitimate way to quit smoking. While I agree that it is a great alternative to cigarettes, let’s not trash every other way there is to quitting.
    If you think certain vape companies don’t attempt to make their products enticing to children/teenagers then you’re kidding yourself. Not every vape company is in the business out of the goodness of their heart, at the end of the day the bottom line for most is profit. If they can find ways to appeal to a larger audience and entice children/teenagers to try their products when they are 18 some are willing to do it.
    I do not agree with the S.F ban but your post was a little too biased for my taste. Implying that little to no non-smokers start vaping is simply wrong in my opinion. I never once smoked a cigarette prior to vaping and I know many people who were the same, or at the very least were not smokers when they begun vaping.

  • Jordan: August 03, 2018

    Miguel T That is lucky, hopefully they dont ban custard flavors. If you haven’t tried the VGOD Cubano vape juice already I highly recommend it. It’s one of my favorite tobacco flavored juices! https://www.eightvape.com/collections/tobacco-e-liquids/products/vgod-cubano-e-liquid-60ml

  • Miguel T.: July 29, 2018

    I have personally being lucky to like the tobacco flavor juices. Once I vaped, I never looked back to analogs. As far as flavors, i tend to like the custards which i use to add flavor to the tobacco juices. I smoked 30 years, and this made it so easy to quit from day one.

  • April: July 27, 2018

    Imagery has nothing to do with teen use of Marlboro, Newport, a bag of weed, or whatever alcohol is available if a teen is determined to try it. Any teen attracted by bright packaging regardless of the contents won’t get the past the child proof caps..

  • April: July 27, 2018

    It totally makes sense in a place where u have to make an effort to avoid stepping in human feces.. My sister who is a nurse had to wash her blind patients service dog who was shot with a syringe filled with blood (and who knows what)by one of the many who line the streets using iv drugs in plain site. He was nice enough to tell the patient, " sorry my rig was clogged and your dog was in the way so don’t let him lick himself!" If it wasn’t so sad it would be comical that these “leaders” are claiming any moral ground in any matter concerning health. To be honest i believe they miss those huge tobacco taxes (.80¢ cost per pack Plus Tax) and are heavily lobbied/ bribbed by the pharmaceutical industry who want to push Chantix, (suicide as a side effect!!) as if hiring Ray Liota for the ads wasn’t desperate enough, they want to eliminate the right to viable options for quitters.. These are the last ppl to tell us about clean healthy living..

  • Lauren: July 27, 2018

    There is some sweet imagery and packaging for alot of vape products. Yami, milkman, mamasan, suicide bunny, etc. Sometimes it’s the first thing that catches my eye. I’m 42 and a lot of the brands I like use pictures and colors that I could see being attractive to kids. My own 9 year old saw my Sakura box and wanted to look at the picture so i told her that just because something has a pretty picture on it doesn’t mean it’s not bad for you. My cousins 14 year old and his friendssaw me vaping and were really interested asking me slot of questions. They TRIED to persuade meI had to tell them how addictive nicotine is

  • Sparky: July 27, 2018

    It sucks that sf has ban flavor juices but it’s not just juices it’s ban .it is also ban smoking in public but I have yet heard nor seen anyone who has got in trouble for it.. the thing is San Francisco has lost out in the long run in sales tax.. the ban on flavors sucks but we get by.. Oakland,San Mateo, Berkeley are all less then a 10 min ride away and we just take our business there .. there loss.. won’t stop us true vapers….

  • Sparky: July 27, 2018

    It sucks that sf has ban flavor juices but it’s not just juices it’s ban .it is also ban smoking in public but I have yet heard nor seen anyone who has got in trouble for it.. the thing is San Francisco has lost out in the long run in sales tax.. the ban on flavors sucks but we get by.. Oakland,San Mateo, Berkeley are all less then a 10 min ride away and we just take our business there .. there loss.. won’t stop us true vapers….

  • Karina: July 27, 2018

    You guys are totally right. While packaging is important to companies to have a eye catching image (I do like a cool looking bottle) maybe they don’t need to so closely resemble boxes of pop rocks or sour patch kids. Maybe a better idea would be to change the packaging laws to not be so identical to these brands that actually are directed at young people.

  • Bridget : July 26, 2018

    I agree with Andrew!!!! I definitely don’t like the taste of tobacco anymore. I love my flavorful Eliquid but the cartoonish labels aren’t necessary.

  • Andrew: July 26, 2018

    While I agree with everything that’s stated above, a lot of the scrutiny that the industry is under is self inflicted. Much of the packaging that e liquid is sold and shipped in is just plain irresponsible. Take Dr. Sugar Chitz for example, c’mon are you trying to tell me that they’re not marketing to children? Or how about Puff Labs with all the circus tents and such on their labels? Yami Vapor and their anime characters aren’t much better. Don’t these companies realize that they’re threatening their own bottom line and vaping as a whole? These are just the few companies that come to mind. I see countless labels while shopping for e liquid that make me shake my head. Honestly, it makes me pretty angry. The industry feigns innocence while it is guilty of much. I love vaping. I have been cigarette free going on three years now and I feel panicked when I think about the government taking all this away. However, we can’t ignore the fact that companies within this industry are giving the feds all the ammunition they need to take our favorite past time away from us.

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